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Mark StosbergI’m trying to check if an old phone running <a href="https://urbanists.social/tags/LineageOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#LineageOS</a> in the US is network locked. It currently doesn’t have a SIM card in it, but I could put in inactive SIM in it if that would help.I tried several online IMEI checkers. Besides being covered in ads, none of them showed the lock status.Suggestions? Thanks!<a href="https://urbanists.social/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#SimLock</a> <a href="https://urbanists.social/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#NetLock</a>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://infosec.exchange/@bob_zim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@bob_zim</a> yeah. Seen it. in the writeup by <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@micahflee" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@micahflee</a> ...I just hope to find any that ain't <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NetLock</a>'d / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SimLock</a>'d to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Verizon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Verizon</a> and that these support more than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/US" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#US</a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LTE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LTE</a> bands... <ul><li>Not shure if it needs a valid <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SIM</a> or just an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ICCID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ICCID</a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Ki" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Ki</a> on a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SIM</a> to get going (cuz in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Germany</a> it's hard [imported <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SIM</a>] to illegal [domestic SIMs] to get an anonymous SIM since 07/2017.</li></ul>I just wish <a href="https://mastodon.social/@eff" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@eff</a> wouldn't expect everyone to use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#centralized</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SingleVendor</a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SingleProvider</a> services like <a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@signalapp</a> in the age of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CloudAct</a>, cuz neither I nor anyone I'd trust would submit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PII</a> to them like a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PhoneNumer</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114234551915193036" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">as a matter of principle!</a>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@ajsadauskas" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ajsadauskas</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@JessTheUnstill</a> <a href="https://mastodon.world/@tomiahonen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@tomiahonen</a> yes, and to add insult to injury <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> didn't even wanted to sell people like <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> or me a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> device, with the only one being "launched" in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EU</a> being a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SimLock</a>'d & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NetLock</a>'d <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#prepaid</a> phone in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Spain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Spain</a> one could only attain in-store with all the "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KYC</a>" nonsense they had, demanding a legal address in Spain back then.<ul><li>So whilst Firefox OS had the most "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/accessible" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#accessible</a>" <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Development" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Development</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tools" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#tools</a> (literally using <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> for it and having every <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/App" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#App</a> as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebView" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WebView</a>|s / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HTML5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HTML5</a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JS5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#JS5</a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CSS3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CSS3</a> files in a container), they didn't even sold us said devices, making it a worse flop than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UbuntuTouch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#UbuntuTouch</a> which at least still gets some devices made that support it...</li></ul>And <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/nerds" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#nerds</a> like myself are far from the "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/consoomer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#consoomer</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Normies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Normies</a>" for whom stuff that isn't on shelves at Staturn/MediaMarkt, BestBuy, Walmart, ... doesn't exist. I'm used to importing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#tech</a> that I want!<ul><li>Feels even more <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSGq9FQKU4" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">half-assed</a> than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MobileCoin</a> in hindsight…</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://cubhub.social/@Rusty" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Rusty</a> <a href="https://rubber.social/@dragonarchitect" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@dragonarchitect</a> I disagree re: webOS and FirefoxOS.<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/webOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webOS</a> failed due to lack of market penetration (there was only like 1 Tablet from <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/hp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#hp</a>) and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> failed because <a href="https://mastodon.social/@mozillaofficial" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@mozillaofficial</a> didn't even offer to sell devices to folks like me and <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> that wanted one.<ul><li>The only devices with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> OS in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EU</a> were a few <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NetLock</a>'d <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#prepaid</a> phones that got sold in Spain (reqiring ID for no valid reason!) and which were essentially useless for anyone outside of Spain.</li></ul>Add to that the absurdity that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> basically expected carriers (!!) to maintain and provide the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AppStore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AppStore</a>|s themselves and you get market fracturing worse than the "P.R." <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/China" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#China</a> (!!!)…It was mismanaged and self-sabotaged in the worst possible way.<ul><li>Similar to how <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OLPC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OLPC</a> never sold the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XO1" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XO1</a> in retail and didn't even offer the "Give one, Get one" deal in most places...</li></ul>The <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Duopoly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Duopoly</a> of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Android</a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/iOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#iOS</a> wasn't unavoidable, but an outcome of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfSabotage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SelfSabotage</a> and halfassed non-commitment by competitors!

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://infosec.space/@quasigod" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@quasigod</a> there's a reason <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SimLock</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NetLock</a> died in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Europe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Europe</a> over a decade ago.<ul><li>People don't like getting shafted - espechally on expensive devices.</li></ul>That being said even <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Prepaid</a> providers don't lock their devices anymore but instead they just sell people devices at cost with a tiny margin and make their €€€ longterm bunding a free <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SIM</a> with every purchase.<ul><li>But yeah, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/US" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#US</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telco" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Telco</a>|s are shit!</li></ul>

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