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Early Modern DiplomacyThis should not belittle their role. Instead, it makes clear how many different layers of influence shaped <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomacy</a>. Even the distinction between formal and informal actors becomes vague when looking at <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/women" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#women</a> as diplomatic actors. If you want to know more about female <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomats" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomats</a> don’t miss the reflections of our editor <a href="https://historians.social/@LenaOetzel" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@LenaOetzel</a> on the representation of women (<a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/diplomats" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#diplomats</a>) in palace exhibitions: <a href="https://hcommons.social/@emdiplomacy/114313349396802000" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://hcommons.social/@emdiplomacy/114313349396802000</a> (7/7) <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/NewDiplomaticHistory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NewDiplomaticHistory</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/earlyModern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#earlyModern</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/histodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#histodon</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/history" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#history</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/publicHistory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#publicHistory</a><a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/histodons" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@histodons</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/historikerinnen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@historikerinnen</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/earlymodern" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@earlymodern</a> <a href="https://historians.social/@womenknowhistory" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@womenknowhistory</a>

Early Modern DiplomacyJames argues, that the practice of dynastic <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/marriages" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#marriages</a> marrying young noble <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/women" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#women</a> to princes in very different countries and cultures, made them ideal <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/diplomats" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#diplomats</a>. They needed to adapt to their new surroundings and built networks, while keeping an eye on the interests of the family of origin. Nonetheless, they remained largely unofficial actors and always had to balance their political and diplomatic activities with the prescribed norms of female behaviour. In general, it was their connection to men – their husbands, fathers, sons or brothers – that enabled them to play a role in <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomacy</a>. (6/7)<a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/NewDiplomaticHistory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NewDiplomaticHistory</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/earlyModern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#earlyModern</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/CourtStudies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CourtStudies</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/histodons" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#histodons</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/history" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#history</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/histodons" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@histodons</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/historikerinnen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@historikerinnen</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/earlymodern" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@earlymodern</a> <a href="https://historians.social/@womenknowhistory" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@womenknowhistory</a>

Early Modern DiplomacyHowever, in rare cases and under special circumstances <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/ambassadresses" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ambassadresses</a> could step in for their husband fulfilling also official diplomatic duties, if he e.g. had died during the mission. Florian Kühnel describes the case of Anne-Marie de Pontac who took over the position of a French ambassador in the OttomanEmpire after her husband's death in 1685:<a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/07075332.2021.1905032#abstract" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/07075332.2021.1905032#abstract</a>(5/7)<a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/NewDiplomaticHistory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NewDiplomaticHistory</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/history" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#history</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/histodons" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#histodons</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/earlyModern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#earlyModern</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomacy</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/histodons" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@histodons</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/historikerinnen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@historikerinnen</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/earlymodern" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@earlymodern</a> <a href="https://historians.social/@womenknowhistory" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@womenknowhistory</a>

Early Modern DiplomacyThere were different ways in which <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/women" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#women</a> could play a role in <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomacy</a>: as wives of <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/diplomats" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#diplomats</a> as princesses and queen consort or as ladies-in-waiting. It was often their position between their family of origin and their new family that enabled them to act as diplomatic brokers and person of contact of foreign diplomats. Women had access to places at <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/court" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#court</a> that were often inaccessible for men and thus were ideal information gatherers and spies. This is especially true for the European diplomats sent to <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/Constantinople" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Constantinople</a>, where the Harem was an important centre of power that remained closed to male diplomats. (4/7) <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/NewDiplomaticHistory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NewDiplomaticHistory</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/CourtStudies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CourtStudies</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/histodons" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#histodons</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/history" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#history</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/earlyModern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#earlyModern</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/histodons" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@histodons</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/historikerinnen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@historikerinnen</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/earlymodern" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@earlymodern</a> <a href="https://historians.social/@womenknowhistory" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@womenknowhistory</a>

Early Modern DiplomacyWhile older research in the wake of Mattingly’s seminal study on <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/Renaissance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Renaissance</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/diplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#diplomacy</a> has ignored <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/women" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#women</a> role in <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomacy</a> (as well as those of other informal actors), recent research has discovered the importance of women as diplomatic agents. One reason why women as diplomatic actors have been ignored for so long, is that they seldom feature in the official diplomatic <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/correspondences" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#correspondences</a>. For understanding their role, one has to turn to other sources such as family letters. <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomacysSources" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomacysSources</a> (3/7) <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/NewDiplomaticHistory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NewDiplomaticHistory</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/diplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#diplomacy</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/histodons" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#histodons</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/earlyModern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#earlyModern</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/history" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#history</a><a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/histodons" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@histodons</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/historikerinnen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@historikerinnen</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/earlymodern" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@earlymodern</a> <a href="https://historians.social/@womenknowhistory" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@womenknowhistory</a>

Early Modern DiplomacyWe talk a lot about non-male diplomatic actors in <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomacy</a> and of course there will be an <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/handbook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#handbook</a> article on women and <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomacy</a>.We are very happy to have non other then Carolyn James as an author on this. James is an absolute expert on <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/women" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#women</a> and <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/diplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#diplomacy</a> having edited one of the first essay collections on the topic which still is standard. Moreover, she has written on Renaissance women and the history of emotions: <a href="https://monash.academia.edu/CarolynJames" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://monash.academia.edu/CarolynJames</a> In 2020, she published a monograph on the marriage of Isabella d’Este and Francesco Gonzaga: <a href="https://global.oup.com/academic/product/a-renaissance-marriage-9780199681211?cc=se&lang=en&" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://global.oup.com/academic/product/a-renaissance-marriage-9780199681211?cc=se&lang=en&</a> (2/7) <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/NewDiplomaticHistory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NewDiplomaticHistory</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/EarlyModern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EarlyModern</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/histodons" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#histodons</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/history" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#history</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/histodons" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@histodons</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/historikerinnen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@historikerinnen</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/earlymodern" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@earlymodern</a> <a href="https://historians.social/@womenknowhistory" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@womenknowhistory</a>

Early Modern DiplomacyWe are back from our break! While we were away, another <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/review" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#review</a> of the <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomacy</a> handbook was published in Mitteilungen des Instituts für Österreichische Geschichtsforschung 133/1.Barbara Haider-Wilson sumarises: "Das neue Handbuch macht die thematischen wie theoretisch-methodischen Anreicherungen des Forschungsfeldes in seiner internationalen, vornehmlich europäischen, Aufstellung sichtbar."Moreover, she points out that "Die auffallendste Stärke des Werkes liegt in diesem Zugang der Vielfalt – von permanenten bzw. zeitlich begrenzten Missionen hin zu Ereignissen wie Friedenskongressen und Ständeversammlungen bildet es den weit gespannten Bogen der Diplomatie ab [...]."And "Besonders anregend erscheint der Umstand, dass über die Darstellung des State of the Art hinaus vielfach offene Forschungsfragen angesprochen werden."We are over the moon about this extremely positive feedback!You finde the review here: <a href="https://geschichtsforschung.univie.ac.at/publikationen/mitteilungen-des-instituts-fuer-oesterreichische-geschichtsforschung/mioeg-1331-2025/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://geschichtsforschung.univie.ac.at/publikationen/mitteilungen-des-instituts-fuer-oesterreichische-geschichtsforschung/mioeg-1331-2025/</a><a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/histodons" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#histodons</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/NewDiplomaticHistory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NewDiplomaticHistory</a>

Dorothée Goetze<a href="https://scholar.social/tags/emdiplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomacy</a> reading recommendation <a href="https://hcommons.social/@emdiplomacy/114313406758637095" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://hcommons.social/@emdiplomacy/114313406758637095</a>

Dorothée GoetzeThe <a href="https://hcommons.social/@emdiplomacy" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@emdiplomacy</a> holiday break continues, but you don't want to spend the weekend without <a href="https://scholar.social/tags/emdiplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomacy</a> content? Don't miss the latest thread by <a href="https://historians.social/@LenaOetzel" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@LenaOetzel</a> then who shares her thoughts and impressions on female <a href="https://scholar.social/tags/emdiplomats" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomats</a> and the guided tour at <a href="https://scholar.social/tags/Versailles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Versailles</a>. <a href="https://hcommons.social/@emdiplomacy/114313349396802000" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://hcommons.social/@emdiplomacy/114313349396802000</a>

Dorothée Goetze<a href="https://scholar.social/tags/emdiplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomacy</a> reading recommendation <a href="https://akademienl.social/@bramvanleuveren/114380303056012482" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://akademienl.social/@bramvanleuveren/114380303056012482</a>

Lena OetzelHere are some <a href="https://historians.social/tags/emdiplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomacy</a> reading recommendations on female diplomatic actors 👇 <a href="https://hcommons.social/@emdiplomacy/114313406758637095" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://hcommons.social/@emdiplomacy/114313406758637095</a><a href="https://historians.social/tags/Versailles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Versailles</a> <a href="https://historians.social/tags/diplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#diplomacy</a> <a href="https://historians.social/tags/WomensHistory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WomensHistory</a> <a href="https://historians.social/tags/diplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#diplomacy</a> <a href="https://historians.social/tags/LouisXIV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LouisXIV</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/histodons" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@histodons</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/earlymodern" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@earlymodern</a>

Early Modern DiplomacyIt's time for us to take a break, get some rest and eat Easter eggs. We wish you a good and hopefully relaxing time! We will be back in May with more <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomacy</a> content, so stay tuned!

Early Modern Diplomacy<a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/histodons" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@histodons</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/historikerinnen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@historikerinnen</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/earlymodern" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@earlymodern</a> If we caught your interest with this thread, we have some reading recommendations. On Madame de Maintenon we can recommend the biography by Mark Bryant, Queen of Versailles: Madame de Maintenon, Fist Lady of Louis XIV’s France, London/Chicago 2020 as well as the PhD thesis by Corina Bastian who focused especially on <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomacy</a>: Corina Bastian. Verhandeln in Briefen. Frauen in der höfischen Diplomatie des frühen 18. Jahrhunderts, Köln u. a. 2013.On Marie Adélaïde de Savoie we can recommend the biography by Elisabetta Lurgo, Marie Adélaïde de Savoie – Duchesse de Bourgogne, mère de Louis XV., Paris 2024. (7/7)<a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomacy</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/Versailles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Versailles</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomats" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomats</a>

Early Modern Diplomacy<a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/histodons" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@histodons</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/historikerinnen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@historikerinnen</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/earlymodern" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@earlymodern</a> If you browse through the homepage of the castle of Versailles you do find more detailed information about Madame de Maintenon, but on side visiting the palace only with an audioguide at your side as most tourists do, you get a very limited and outdated view of the role of female political and diplomatic actors. (6/7)<a href="https://en.chateauversailles.fr/discover/history/great-characters/madame-maintenon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://en.chateauversailles.fr/discover/history/great-characters/madame-maintenon</a><a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/Versailles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Versailles</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/France" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#France</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/LouisXIV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LouisXIV</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomats" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomats</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomacy</a>

Early Modern Diplomacy<a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/histodons" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@histodons</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/historikerinnen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@historikerinnen</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/earlymodern" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@earlymodern</a> Another woman that played an important role at Versailles was Françoise d’Aubigné, Marquise de Maintenon. She was first mistress and later wife of Louis XIV, although this marriage was never openly acknowledged. Nevertheless, she was a close confidant and advisor to the king and everybody knew about her political influence. The audioguide doesn’t mention this. At several points it describes how Louis XIV discussed politics with his (male) advisors in this or that room. Madame de Maintenon isn’t mentioned in these contexts. She is only discussed, when talking about Louis’ XIV free time and that he enjoyed going for extended walks with her. That the might have discussed politics isn’t mentioned at all, neither that she was an important political and diplomatic actor at the French court. (5/7)<a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/France" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#France</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/Versailles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Versailles</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/LouisXIV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LouisXIV</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomacy</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/earlymodern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#earlymodern</a>

Early Modern Diplomacy<a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/histodons" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@histodons</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/historikerinnen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@historikerinnen</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/earlymodern" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@earlymodern</a> Whether this is true or not, the position of the princess was always that of a broker between her family of origin and the family of her husband. They were in a way <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomats" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomats</a>. That was not always an easy position, as both sides expected on the one hand that she acted as an intermediary between the two families and on the other that she had to be loyal to both sides which of course could lead to conflicts. How the women handled this situation was very different, depending also on the political constellation between the two dynasties. In the case of Marie Adélaïde de Savoie it is important to acknowledge this position, instead of creating the image of a woman who overstepped her competences. When reporting home to her father, she might have enraged Louis XIV, but she fulfilled the expectations of her family of origin. (4/7)<a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomats" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomats</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomacy</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/France" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#France</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/Savoy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Savoy</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/earlymodern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#earlymodern</a>

Early Modern Diplomacy<a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/histodons" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@histodons</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/historikerinnen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@historikerinnen</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/earlymodern" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@earlymodern</a> One of these stories was about Marie Adélaïde de Savoie (1685-1712) who was married to Louis de Bourbon, the grandson of Louis XIV. She was also the mother of the later Louis XV. She came to Versailles when she was only eleven and the audioguide tells you that the old Louis XIV really enjoyed her lively company. When she died quite young at the age of 26 of measels, her papers were sorted and it was discovered that she had regularly reported about court politics to her father the duke of Savoy. According to the story, Louis XIV had been enraged and called her a traitor. (3/7)<a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomacy</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/Versailles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Versailles</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/LouisXIV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LouisXIV</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/earlymodern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#earlymodern</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/France" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#France</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/Savoy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Savoy</a>

Early Modern DiplomacyA few weeks ago one of editors <a href="https://historians.social/@LenaOetzel" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@LenaOetzel</a> visited Versailles for the first time. Listening to the audioguide she felt the strong need to talk about <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/earlymodern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#earlymodern</a> female diplomatic/political actors and how they are represented in popular culture (or at least in this audioguide...). True to the motto that every month is <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/WomensHistoryMonth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WomensHistoryMonth</a>, here is a thread about the women of Versailles - or at least two of them. (1/7)<a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomacy</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomats" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomats</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/Versailles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Versailles</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/earlymodern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#earlymodern</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/France" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#France</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/EarlyModernEurope" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EarlyModernEurope</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/histodons" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@histodons</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/historikerinnen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@historikerinnen</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/earlymodern" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@earlymodern</a>

Dorothée GoetzeHere comes a new <a href="https://scholar.social/tags/emdiplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomacy</a> reading recommendation! Enjoy! <a href="https://hcommons.social/@emdiplomacy/114280704718664356" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://hcommons.social/@emdiplomacy/114280704718664356</a>

Early Modern Diplomacy<a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/historikerinnen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@historikerinnen</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/histodons" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@histodons</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/earlymodern" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@earlymodern</a> In order to analyse the diplomatic activities of the members of the <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomat</a>’s household, research has to shift focus with regard to <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomacysSources" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomacysSources</a>. It is not enough to evaluate diplomatic file material, which rarely mentions these individuals. Instead, research must increasingly resort to first person documents. (10/10) <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomacy</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/emdiplomats" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emdiplomats</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/history" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#history</a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/histodons" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#histodons</a>

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